Enzyme Therapy – Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez – Part 1
Conventional doctors accept acupuncture, massage therapy, “spiritual aspects of healing,” but when you get into cancer that is WWI trench warfare. You don’t go near cancer if you are an alternative practitioner. Of course, we go there because the truth is the truth and you have to go where it takes you. Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez
When I look for answers for my dog’s osteosarcoma K9 OSA, I want to be able to evaluate different available therapies. I want to know why I should treat him with digestive enzymes instead of chemotherapy and radiation or vice versa. And what I’ve found is that treating cancer with pancreatic enzymes isn’t a new, possibly fleeting, alternative approach. The treatment is well founded and dates back a century.
Success rates, particularly in conjunction with a nutritional and detoxification program are phenomenal. We are talking 90% and higher for all types of cancer for people. The Budwig Center for humans includes enzyme therapy in their protocol and a New York Doctor Nicolas Gonzalez has become the most noted nutritional therapist and in some circles, the infamous torch bearer for this type of treatment.
Although Dr. Gonzalez treats, and Dr. Kelley before him treated, people, the underlying theory holds true for dogs. But why isn’t this treatment better known for people and for pets? The following, taken from a multi-part interview conducted by Dr. Mercola with Dr. Gonzalez sheds a great deal of light.
Dr. Gonzalez. My experience is unique, I think, I really expected to be a basic science researcher at Sloan Kettering Institute. I never expected to be treating patients. I went to Cornell Medical College in New York City, specifically to start my research career at Sloan Kettering, one of Cornell’s teaching hospitals.
After my second year of medical school, the president of Sloan Kettering Dr. Robert Good kind of adopted me into his research group as the medical student kind of protégé guy. Considered the father of modern immunology, Dr. Good was the most published authors in the history of medicine. When he died, he had some 2000 papers to his credit..
Well, I was on a conventional track to be a Sloan Kettering type researcher when I met William Kelley, the very eccentric, controversial dentist who had been who had been practicing nutritional approaches to cancer for some 20 years. Being a very conventional guy at that time, I was not very anxious to meet him. But I was introduced to Kelley in NYC where he had been traveling, through a fried of mine. The meeting was serendipitous.
Within 10 minutes, I realized this guy Kelley was very smart. He’d already been lambasted in the press because he was involved with treating Steve McQueen and he was unfairly blamed for Steve McQueen’s death (McQueeen died of very advanced cancer and had a terrible terminal cancer when he came to Kelley).
Kelley was reeling from that. His sole motivation was to have his work properly tested. He thought he was on to something valuable. And if he was, he thought it should be in the hands of conventional physicians, a kind of naïve, idealistic approach.
After talking with Kelley, I went into Dr. Good and said, “I met this eccentric dentist that had been in the press.” Good knew all about the press reports and felt Kelley had been treated unfairly. Good always had an open mind to alternatives and encouraged me to begin a student project investigation during the summer of 1981, after my second year of medical school.
The following day, I flew down to Dallas, Texas, where Kelley had his office. I started going through his records and even though I had just completed two years of medical school, I could see right away there were extraordinary cases in Kelley’s records: pancreatic cancer, metastatic breast cancer in the bone, metastatic colorectal cancers, cancers that kill fast; any medical student knows that. But, under Kelley’s care with his nutritional approach, his patients were alive five or ten and fifteen years later,.
I spent two weeks gathering records in Kelley’s office, flew back to New York, showed them to Dr. Good.
On the basis of that preliminary review of Kelley’s files, Good encouraged me to do a formal research study, which I eventually developed and completed when I was doing my fellowship in, of all things, cancer immunology and bone marrow transplants under Dr. Good.
Among his other accomplishments, Dr. Good did the first bone marrow transplant in history which is probably the most aggressive approach to cancer there is. And I was trained to do that, ironically.
I finished my fellowship with Dr. Good. By this point, he’d left Sloan Kettering and went down to All Children’s Hospital in St. Petersburg, Florida, where he established a cancer research division, a bone marrow transplant unit under the direction of the University of South Florida.
I finished my fellowship under him. And went through thousands of Kelley’s records, put my findings together in a monograph which was divided into three sections. The first section dealt with Kelley’s theory (which I’ll talk about in a few minutes). The second section was fifty cases of appropriately diagnosed cancer by responsible, respectable medical institutions by conventional criteria with terrible cancers by conventional criteria. And they we alive five, ten years later with tumor regression, long term survival that could only be attributed to Kelley’s program.
The third component in my monograph, which was an interesting project, dealt with all the patients Kelley dealt with between 1974 and 1982 (I chose those years arbitrarily). Good said that I should track down every single patient that entered Kelley’s office during that period. Because if Kelley could produce one patient of record with appropriately diagnosed pancreatic cancer that was alive five or ten years later, he said that would be remarkable because as President of Sloan Kettering, he didn’t know of anybody with inoperable pancreatic cancer that was alive five or ten years later. If they existed, he would have known.
We ultimately tracked down 23 cases that came into Kelley’s office. Ten of them never did the program. They were dissuaded by family members or doctors who thought Kelley was a quack. The average survival for that group (and they proved to be a good control group of untreated patients) the average survival was about sixty days.
It was the second group of patients who did the therapy partially and incompletely, and again, and they were often dissuaded by well-intentioned, but often misguided, family members or doctors. Their average survival, even doing it incompletely, wad 300 days.
It was the third group, initially there were six patients, one patient was ultimately discounted because there was a question as to whether the cancer was colorectal or pancreatic, so I left him out of the final assessment.
There were five that were properly diagnosed with biopsies who did the program fully, all with advanced pancreatic cancer and the average survival was eight and a half years. That is just unheard of in medicine.
One of those patients, and I can use her name because she’s given me permission, Arlene ran a gas station in Wisconsin. She came to see Kelley in 1982. Prior to seeing Kelley, her suspected gall bladder pain and subsequent surgery in a local hospital revealed a tumor in her pancreas and tumor in her liver.
The liver lesion biopsy showed a fully differentiated adenocarcinoma, consistent with a pancreatic primary. They closed her up, didn’t even attempt surgery, and sent her off to the Mayo Clinic where they reviewed the slides and confirmed stage four pancreatic cancer. Mayo gave her six months, maybe a year, to live if she was really lucky, and discouraged chemotherapy. To the Mayo Clinic’s great credit, if they know that chemo doesn’t work, they are not going to push it on somebody. And in her case they said, don’t waste your time, it will just make you sick.
Arlene then learned about Kelley in a health food store in her local town in Wisconsin. She underwent Kelley’s treatment and is still alive. This summer, it will be twenty-nine years. She was diagnosed in 1982. I know of no patient with stage four pancreatic cancer, confirmed at the Mayo Clinic, with liver metastasis, alive twenty-eight, twenty-nine years later.
Those are the kinds of Kelley’s cases that we were finding that were quite remarkable. We put all this together in monograph form in 1986, but we were unable to get it published even with Dr. Good’s support.
There were two general responses. One, there were trade editors in the regular publishing business or medical editors, who thought it couldn’t be true. They couldn’t believe it. They thought Dr. Good was risking his career.
The other response was from editors who actually believed it because it was so well done. In the monograph, we actually copied in the medical records from the diagnosing hospitals and doctors, and patients gave us permission to use their names. So there was no secrecy. Everything was transparent. We even had the names in the original version.
The second editors believed it, but said it’s so controversial. This is 1986, 1987. Their careers would be over. The publishing industry would go after them. So we couldn’t get it published. We spent two years. We tried to publish case reports in the medical journals, the whole book, parts of the book, individual case reports….no success.
Dr, Mercola. Can I interrupt you here? This is a huge point. Many of our listeners may just gloss over it. But those of us who practice natural medicine are frequently criticized for not publishing our findings.
I don’t publish, because I feel it’s not going to get published anyway and here your story confirms that. From what you said, Dr. Good was one of the most published authors in the scientific literature at that point and yet he was refused! If the top guy is refused, how is a general primary care physician going to get an article published?
Dr. Gonzalez. They will throw it in the garbage so fast it will break the speed of light. Robert Good at that time was the most published. Somebody may have succeeded him, but he was the most published author in medical history. You can go on PubMed. He was literally author of over 2000 articles. He was coeditor of fifty text books. He was nominated for the Nobel Prize three times. He didn’t win because he was a controversial guy.
There’s a book called Racketeering in Medicine by Jim Carter where the introduction talks about Dr. Good. It discusses the fact that one of the reasons Good was pushed out of Sloan Kettering was because he supported people like me, which he did. He would do it. And he was blasted for doing it. And he was at the top of his profession, President of Sloan Kettering, father of immunology. He did the first bone marrow transplant in history. True. He couldn’t get it published, couldn’t get a case report published.
In fact I have a letter, have it about ten feet from where we’re talking, in one of my files from an editor, dated 1987, who wrote to Good. I had submitted some case reports and the whole monograph to this editor of a very prominent medical journal, peer review journal, and the guy wrote a blistering letter to Good, saying, “You’ve been boondoggled by some crazy quack guy. Don’t you see this is all fraud? He’s just snookered you.”
It’s the most extraordinary, irrational letter. There’s nothing snookering. The patient’s names were there, the medical records. Copies of their pertinent medical records were there. These patients were available. Any editor could have called the patient. Like Arlene van Stratten, twenty-nine years later, she’ll talk to anybody. But nobody cared. They wouldn’t do it. They couldn’t believe it. They wouldn’t believe it.
I could see. It was very disturbing to me because it is what it is. I don’t come out of alterative medicine. I come out of a very conventional research orientation and it was astonishing to me.
I didn’t have some associate professor. I had the President of Sloan Kettering who couldn’t get this thing published because it disagreed with the philosophy that was being promoted and that is that only chemotherapy, radiation, and immunotherapy could successfully treat cancer even though the success rate was so abysmal.
Yes. The idea that medical journals are these objective, unbiased repositories of truth about science is totally nonsense. Most of them are owned by the drug companies. They won’t publish anything that disagrees with their philosophy, and that is, drugs are good and anything that’s nutrition is, at best, worthless, at worst, fraud and abject quackery.
I mean, that’s the way they think. I saw the letters. In fact there was more than one letter written to Good. The one I mentioned, I remember well because I have a copy of it just blasting me for having done this project, and for Good for having supported me.
So by the end of 1987, we realized we were going to get nowhere. Good was no longer at Sloan, so he didn’t have the power base to arbitrarily conduct clinical trials. And Kelley was off the deep end because he thought this project was his one chance to get his work accepted. When he saw that it wasn’t even going to get published, he literally went off the deep end and stopped seeing patients.
I last spoke to him the summer of ’87. He accused me of being part of a CIA plot of trying to steal his work and I had to move on. To this day, I will give him credit for his great, brilliant innovations.
Like Semmelweiss going crazy in Austria during the 19th century after showing that doctors should wash their hands before delivering babies and no one would accept that. Semmelweiss just went off the deep end. That’s kind of what happened to Kelley. I say that with great sadness.
I came back to New York with Dr. Isaacs who was assisting me in my research, set up practice seeing patients using Kelley’s three-pronged approach and started getting good results right away.
One of the first patients I saw, I remember so well. It was the day before Pearl Harbor Day, December 6, 1987. She had been diagnosed with inflammatory breast cancer two years earlier.
Inflammatory breast cancer is the most aggressive form of breast cancer. The tumor in her breast was so big they couldn’t take it out. The doctor thought it was an infection, so time was wasted putting her on antibiotics. Meanwhile this tumor exploded. Inflammatory breast cancer can kill you in two months.
By the time they realized it was cancer, it was too big to operate. So they gave her radiation to shrink it, operated on it, and took out an 8 cm tumor. And sixteen of sixteen nodes were positive. Just unbelievable. They put her on aggressive chemo (this is 1985), had her on aggressive chemo, saying, you’re going to be on aggressive chemo until the day you die. That’s the way it’s going to be.
While she was getting chemo, she developed bone metastasis, stage four disease…the doctors threw their hands up in the air. That was December 6, 1987.
Twenty-three years and three months later…
After a few years on the program, all of her scans were clear and she’s done remarkably well. Here’s a woman that was given six months, a year to live and even developed metastasis while getting the breast a multi-agent chemotherapy, and not quite twenty-three years and three months later, she’s alive and enjoying her life and just doing so well.
So we can see that Kelley’s approach really works. And when I report these cases, I’m really giving Kelley the credit because he really developed the treatment, this enzyme-based treatment.
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